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Tierdal
03-20-2010, 04:03 PM
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This makes ZvZ more interesting by far. And it gives lings a nice niche.
Ramennoodles
03-20-2010, 04:04 PM
Something tells me that'd be so broken, it wouldn't be funny.
Tierdal
03-20-2010, 04:05 PM
Something tells me that'd be so broken, it wouldn't be funny.

broken against what exactly?
Wingless
03-20-2010, 04:06 PM
Are immortals armored? This could be so sweet. Broken but sweet.

Edit: Does the armored dmg effect buildings that have armor also? or is that a separate thing.
Ramennoodles
03-20-2010, 04:07 PM
broken against what exactly?


Against ANYTHING armored. Zerglings are so numerous that even a marginal bonus to their damage would be multiplied by their sheer numbers. You'd almost be throwing away money using armored units against zerg if their most basic, easily spammable units had a bonus to armored.
Tierdal
03-20-2010, 04:08 PM
Against ANYTHING armored. Zerglings are so numerous that even a marginal bonus to their damage would be multiplied by their sheer numbers. You'd almost be throwing away money using armored units against zerg if their most basic, easily spammable units had a bonus to armored.

There are very few armored units dude... this would mostly give zerg an alternative to mass roachers
Chasm
03-20-2010, 04:09 PM
Stop trying to buff zerglings. zerglings are great already. Stop projecting your roach anger
Wingless
03-20-2010, 04:10 PM
Colossus, Immortal, Stalker, Hellion, Marauder, Siege tank, Thor are all armored its not very few. You would break the PvT ground game. Hellions would be greatly weakened, and siege tanks plus thor would be weakened more against a unit thats already a counter.

Protoss would become much more vulnerable to roaches because their precious immortals will become very difficult to field.

This idea is terrible.
Jrange
03-20-2010, 04:11 PM
LOL, can you imagine... 40 Cracklings with even +1 against armored? 20% increased attack speed?

Zerglings already own most armored units.
Ramennoodles
03-20-2010, 04:12 PM
Clearly, the best option is to put Lurkers back in the game.
Zasz
03-20-2010, 04:13 PM
Clearly, the best option is to put Lurkers back in the game.
Tierdal
03-20-2010, 04:14 PM
Clearly, the best option is to put Lurkers back in the game.

or this
Jrange
03-20-2010, 04:15 PM
Clearly, the best option is to put Lurkers back in the game.

Yes.
Frozen
03-20-2010, 04:16 PM
Clearly, the best option is to put Lurkers back in the game.

QFT
Sodamuffin
03-20-2010, 04:17 PM
Zerglings are fine. Buff Banelings.
Razquil
03-20-2010, 04:18 PM
Zerglings are fine. Buff Banelings.

/sign
Resolve
03-20-2010, 04:19 PM
Clearly, the best option is to put Lurkers back in the game.
QFT
Deviant
03-20-2010, 04:20 PM
Are immortals armored? This could be so sweet. Broken but sweet.

Edit: Does the armored dmg effect buildings that have armor also? or is that a separate thing.

Seperate "vs building" which is really down to Reapers and Ultralisks.
Static
03-20-2010, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Wingless.snubs

Are immortals armored? This could be so sweet. Broken but sweet.

Edit: Does the armored dmg effect buildings that have armor also? or is that a separate thing.Yes. Buildings are armored, so anything with monstrous +damage to armored bonuses tears through buildings. Speed cracklings with +armor would be redonk.
Redscare
03-20-2010, 04:22 PM
maybe mutas as a greater spire upgrade would work.
Yaz
03-20-2010, 04:23 PM
Zerglings don't need a buff, they're great as is. They especially don't need a + vs armored which would be absolutely abysmal towards any sort of balance with any race, including vs zerg, as roaches would become obsolete completely.
Wingless
03-20-2010, 04:24 PM
maybe mutas as a greater spire upgrade would work.

WTF is this? Did you just recommend mutas be tier 3? Just delete your bnet account please.

Edit: Or are you recommending tier 3 upgrade for mutas to have +armor cause thats just as bad.
Corruption
03-20-2010, 04:25 PM
Roaches are currently one of the only armored Zerg units... what are you talking about?
Swiftaust
03-20-2010, 04:26 PM
+armored lings would be a laugh riot.

Imagine 30 lings running into the base, completely crushing all buildings while ignoring things attacking them. You wouldn't even need banes to break wallins anymore, just send in the cracklings!
Wingless
03-20-2010, 04:27 PM
+armored lings would be a laugh riot.

Imagine 30 lings running into the base, completely crushing all buildings while ignoring things attacking them. You wouldn't even need banes to break wallins anymore, just send in the cracklings!

This idea sounds better and better.
Swiftaust
03-20-2010, 04:28 PM
It's what I do with marauders against zerg right now honestly. Double rax+tech, send in the 2-4 marines + 6 marauders and ignore things (marines kill workers) while destroying the lair. Move barracks over to reactors, factories over to tech and build tanks + stim marines. No matter what is built after that it will be destroyed by sieged tanks + stimmed M&M ball.
John389
09-04-2010, 08:23 PM
Zerg really could use a decent anti-armored unit. I can't understand why Zerg are the only race without a solid anti-armored unit.

Terran have Marauders

Protoss have Stalkers

Zerg HAD ultralisks (getting nerfed in 1.1). Zerg have to pray they have a good Starcraft 2 strategy guide (http://www.sc2guidereviews.com). Seriously though, why do Corruptors only deal bonus damage to Massive units and not armored units? Makes no sense.