Maphack Encounter

[Pokey]

Where do we submit feedback for cheaters? I was just recently maphacked against and I have a replay to prove it.

The guy is constantly staring at my base and units through the fog of war(replay) and he magically knows what I have and where I have it even though he never scouts me, not even once.

It was the first time since starting the beta that I suspected a cheater, and I'm sad that after watching the replay I was correct.

Who do I need to send this replay to?

edit: I guess I'll post the replay here so you guys can watch it yourselves and make your own assessment. Let me find a place to upload it to. Give me a few minutes.

Alright, here it is. Let me know what you guys think.

http://www.sc2rc.com/index.php/replay/show/177

edit2: It's the Terran that is maphacking! Sorry I didn't make it clear the first time.

[Endureth]

hacks@blizzard.com I think

You can also post it here so we can see it :)

[Trinith]

This isn't really related, but how do you set the replay to watch what their screen does? I tried clicking that little arrow that says "perspective" but it seems it just shows me what the map itself looks like from their perspective, I still control the actual camera.

[Fuse]

can you post the replay here? I really want to see this!

[Amantar]

This isn't really related, but how do you set the replay to watch what their screen does? I tried clicking that little arrow that says "perspective" but it seems it just shows me what the map itself looks like from their perspective, I still control the actual camera.
Click the camera button next to it and don't touch your keyboard or mouse.

[Pokey]

make sure the tiny camera on the control bar is orange and that means you are following the person. make sure your cursor doesn't touch the side of the screen or it will auto-disable the follow.

just push F1 for player 1 and F2 to follow player 2

[Trinith]

Click the camera button next to it and don't touch your keyboard or mouse.

You, sir (or miss/madam), are awesome.

Thanks!

[Wingless]

Post the replay file please I would like to someone actually doing it I haven't seen a real one yet.

[Thebeard]

This isn't really related, but how do you set the replay to watch what their screen does? I tried clicking that little arrow that says "perspective" but it seems it just shows me what the map itself looks like from their perspective, I still control the actual camera.

Click the little camera icon, it should be highlighted orange when you are locked onto their camera movement.

[Conscience]

i dont understand why ppl would want to hack a beta

i guess to get ready to hack the release but things could change alot before then.

[Darkenon]

map hacks will compeltely ruin any chance for this game to have a real competitive arena for public play

[Terrorvision]

map hacks will compeltely ruin any chance for this game to have a real competitive arena for public play

Yeah, but Blizzard rarely lets that stuff run without trying to fight it. Running a maphack is a serious risk to your rank if you are doing because you care about your rank competitively.

Also, in big high profile tournaments and such, its pretty easy to see if someone is cheating as usually people are watching live.

[Irish]

so i just watched the replay twice, from both sides, and i saw no maphack.

[Pokey]

so i just watched the replay twice, from both sides, and i saw no maphack.

it's the terran you're looking out for.

you won't be able to see what he sees. the fog of war should still be there. but he's obviously looking at stuff that you can't see, which is troublesome, and imo, is pointing toward him cheating.

Seriously though, it's sooo blatant in this replay, like 10x over, and you still didn't notice?! He knows units are there so many times when he shouldn't - all over the map!

[Pokey]

I don't get it.

I see changlings, I see zerglings at the Xel'Naga watch towers knowing exactly the composition of your army.

I see mass hydralisks and you doing nothing about them. lol seige tanks.

Nothing the zerg player did seemed out of the ordinary, and he performed everything just like I would have sans the drone scouting your base at the very beggining. Probably because there are not too many cheese builds you can come up with on such a small and simple map.

You got out played, suck it up.

lol, i'm the zerg player. read my name! :(
i need to edit the OP, this is more difficult than i thought
it's the terran that is mapping

[Bilco]

Put everything server side like HoN did.. problem solved.

[Coldvoltage]

lol yea this is very blatant. He constantly looks at your base (through fog of war) and is constantly looking for overlords around the map (again, through fog of war).

You have to see the game through the terran's player view. He just stares at nothingness.

On top of that, like the OP said, he never scouts.

[Shawnk]

yeah i just watched it myself and it was very obvious. not only did he keep looking at your base, he strategically placed marines on your scout overlords' paths.

this totally sucks.

i hope he at least gets banned from the beta.

[Shoryucas]

Put everything server side like HoN did.. problem solved.
yeah, i don't know why they wouldn't do this
is it too much of a strain if there's a lot of people playing at once?

[Lazz]

Absolutely no question about it. Maphacking for sure. Look at the timing that he looks RIGHT into the fog of war when you expanded.

What a piece of shit.

[Messana]

so i just watched the replay twice, from both sides, and i saw no maphack.

Than you are blind, or retarded, or awful at the game. Probably all 3.

Not to troll, but seriously. Seriously? How did you not notice the blatant hacking by the terran by watching from his camera point of view?

[Pokey]

thanks to the people that watched it; thanks guys.

and ya, I hope blizzard has a plan for all of this.

[Toridas]

About 1 in 12 people that play online games is a cheater.

[Bilco]

Ya this is pretty bad and blatant, esp with the overloards. Banhammer plx

[Messana]

I think its hillarious he got pummeled so badly and was maphacking.

[Colrath]

I don't see it, at all.

If this guy truly was maphacking, he would of been running around killing your zerglings scouts at the Xel'Naga watch towers. He would of put in siege tanks to counter your hydralisks. He could of performed so much better.

Some characteristics seem pretty odd, but if I was maphacking, I would still take control of the map and blot out the sun on my opponent. Not let them have just as much map control. Think about it. There just seems to reason to maphack if you're not even going to take advantage of it.

The zerg player knew just as much as the terran player about what was going on, if not more in my opinion.

[Lazz]

Did you ever get this guy's identifier?

[Lunares]

Well at least with the camera perspective it seems to be easier to prove that someone is maphacking. It was rather difficult to prove in SC1.

[Messana]

I don't see it, at all.

If this guy truly was maphacking, he would of been running around killing your zerglings scouts at the Xel'Naga watch towers. He would of put in siege tanks to counter your hydralisks. He could of performed so much better.

Some characteristics seem pretty odd, but if I was maphacking, I would still take control of the map and blot out the sun on my opponent. Not let them have just as much map control. Think about it. There just seems to reason to maphack if you're not even going to take advantage of it.

The zerg player knew just as much as the terran player about what was going on, if not more in my opinion.

Dude. SERIOUSLY? Why does he constantly look at the other base when he can't see it. Knowing exactly when he expands. Why does he bring his marines to JUST THE RIGHT SPOT every time to snipe an overlord, or a zergling or 3. How are you this blind, I want a serious answer. And you should know that cheaters don't = skill. He relies on it to try to win, but he still sucks.

[Pokey]

I don't see it, at all.

If this guy truly was maphacking, he would of been running around killing your zerglings scouts at the Xel'Naga watch towers. He would of put in siege tanks to counter your hydralisks. He could of performed so much better.

Some characteristics seem pretty odd, but if I was maphacking, I would still take control of the map and blot out the sun on my opponent. Not let them have just as much map control. Think about it. There just seems to reason to maphack if you're not even going to take advantage of it.

The zerg player knew just as much as the terran player about what was going on, if not more in my opinion.

he couldn't see my zerglings because the watch towers are huge white squares on the minimap.

i'm sorry, you seem very inexperienced with the game. i can't help you.

[Pokey]

Did you ever get this guy's identifier?

Sadly, no. I don't know of a way to get it either. It doesn't seem possible unless someone gives it away.

[Gearvosh]

Put everything server side like HoN did.. problem solved.

SC2 games aren't run on dedicated servers...

[Toridas]

Sadly, no. I don't know of a way to get it either. It doesn't seem possible unless someone gives it away.

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[Curved]

Definitely seeing things he shouldn't.

[Sef]

That was an obvious display of cheating.

[Colrath]

he couldn't see my zerglings because the watch towers are huge white squares on the minimap.

i'm sorry, you seem very inexperienced with the game. i can't help you.

I sound inexperienced because I'm talking about actually taking advantage of map-hacking rather than pumping out more marines to take on hydralisks, then even battlecruisers? He went right over the zerglins at the Xel'Nagas and didn't if kill them then, when he had a direct line of sight.

This guy is freaking retarded, I don't see how in the world he would be intelligent enough to map hack. He killed 1 overlord on the left side of his base. Yeah, weird, but it's not like he killed the overlord the second he got there. The other overlord was just right at his choke point, nothing special.

Either this guy is trying his hardest not to look like a maphacker, and plays dumb on purpose (Which costs him the game), or he is just dumb.

[Irish]

Than you are blind, or retarded, or awful at the game. Probably all 3.

Not to troll, but seriously. Seriously? How did you not notice the blatant hacking by the terran by watching from his camera point of view?

Yeah being a blind retard makes it pretty tricky to type and all, but I just take my time.

[Panthers]

I don't see it, at all.

If this guy truly was maphacking, he would of been running around killing your zerglings scouts at the Xel'Naga watch towers. He would of put in siege tanks to counter your hydralisks. He could of performed so much better.

Some characteristics seem pretty odd, but if I was maphacking, I would still take control of the map and blot out the sun on my opponent. Not let them have just as much map control. Think about it. There just seems to reason to maphack if you're not even going to take advantage of it.

The zerg player knew just as much as the terran player about what was going on, if not more in my opinion.

Yea, but the Terran player NEVER scouts. The zerg did. The Terran never reveal any of the Zerg players buildings. Yet he kept looking at his base and exp.

[Gearvosh]

I sound inexperienced because I'm talking about actually taking advantage of map-hacking rather than pumping out more marines to take on hydralisks, then even battlecruisers? He went right over the zerglins at the Xel'Nagas and didn't if kill them then, when he had a direct line of sight.

This guy is freaking retarded, I don't see how in the world he would be intelligent enough to map hack. He killed 1 overlord on the left side of his base. Yeah, weird, but it's not like he killed the overlord the second he got there. The other overlord was just right at his choke point, nothing special.

Either this guy is trying his hardest not to look like a maphacker, and plays dumb on purpose (Which costs him the game), or he is just dumb.

Have you seen the current incarnation of the maphack? It DOES NOT reveal and remove the fog of war so you can see everything. All it simply does is work like the minimap, and show little dots of where everything is.

[Colrath]

Yea, but the Terran player NEVER scouts. The zerg did. The Terran never reveal any of the Zerg players buildings. Yet he kept looking at his base and exp.

You're missing the point, I can see that, I watched the point of view from both players, and I watched the total view.

The point is, the terran player, was annihilated. Completely demolished. If someone actually does have an omni-view of the map, that simply should not happen. He should know what units to expect. He should of moved around the map and killing all the overlords and overseers. He could of done so much more, but he didn't.

[Gearvosh]

You're missing the point, I can see that, I watched the point of view from both players, and I watched the total view.

The point is, the terran player, was annihilated. Completely demolished. If someone actually does have an omni-view of the map, that simply should not happen. He should know what units to expect. He should of moved around the map and killing all the overlords and overseers. He could of done so much more, but he didn't.

Read my post...

[Savarashii]

You're missing the point, I can see that, I watched the point of view from both players, and I watched the total view.

The point is, the terran player, was annihilated. Completely demolished. If someone actually does have an omni-view of the map, that simply should not happen. He should know what units to expect. He should of moved around the map and killing all the overlords and overseers. He could of done so much more, but he didn't.

Do you know why people use hacks in games?

Because they suck at them and get annihilated so in retrospect, even a hack can't make you better if your already bad.

Hopefully this kind of stuff will be prevented in the future.

Edit: Because I fail at grammar.

[Colrath]

Do you know why people use hacks in games?


To actually use the hack to his advantage? Oh wait.

[Ghazghkull]

@ all the people who are saying he is not hacking because he lost. He was most definitely hacking look at the way he looks at the FOW for no reason where the overlord was masses enough marines to kill it before it can get away, moves over there instead of a moving and then immediatly moves back without leaving a guy to watch his back door, or the way he dances with the hydra army trying to avoid it even though he would have no way of knowing which way they were going. Also, in regards to how he still lost look at how bad of a player he is he decided to build 4 new barracks instead of just putting reactors on his current ones. also he had a single starport with a tech lab when he was trying to build medivacs. This guy is terribad its no wonder he lost. maybe I would quetion the loss more if he hadnt built 7 barracks and only one starport.

[Savarashii]

To actually use the hack to his advantage? Oh wait.

Having a hack and being able to use it to your maximum advantage are two entirely different matters.

[Dalrack]

There certainly were a lot of strange coincidences.

The stranger part is why he would go marines (instead of maraurders) out of tech lab barracks vs roaches and hydras (which he could clearly see without maphack after the first attack)

I do agree that his choices after hovering over fog of war are indicative of knowledge that he shouldn't have. Although every single one of those could just be an extremely long string of coincidences. I'm sure that we've all had replays that look just as convincing.

So yeah, reporting it sounds good. But I wouldn't tarnish his name on (possibly) a string of coincidences.

[Cirno]

I have seen screenshots of a maphack that does reveal actual buildings and units through the fog of war and not just the minimap. The fog is there, but the buildings and units seem to be drawn on top of it. So yes, looking at an area in the fog for no discernible reason is evidence of maphacking.

[Colrath]

So yeah, reporting it sounds good. But I wouldn't tarnish his name on (possibly) a string of coincidences.

I have a much easier time beleive he is hover over this fog of war, simply because he is bad, and not because he is maphacking.

I can just think of a billion things that I would do differently, like not build my first comstat 12 minuets into the game. If he can't see past the fog of war, then he should comstatted the army to look at the composition. Knowing that there is a blob of units at 'x' position is pretty petty information. Knowing what the army composition is the important part.

For all he could of know, is that it was a blob of zerglings that his marine/medic comp could of easily handled. But it just seems like he didn't know these vital things.

[Kinaesthesia]

I have a much easier time beleive he is hover over this fog of war, simply because he is bad, and not because he is maphacking.

I can just think of a billion things that I would do differently, like not build my first comstat 12 minuets into the game. If he can't see past the fog of war, then he should comstatted the army to look at the composition. Knowing that there is a blob of units at 'x' position is pretty petty information. Knowing what the army composition is the important part.

Having maphack is distracting. Think about it; it's almost like expanding your macro to the entire map. Everytime he sees something new pop up on the minimap, he has to check it out through FOW, which loses building time as well as focus.

As another player said, just because you hack doesn't mean you are GOOD at hacking - to download a hack is one thing, to become proficient at maximizing the hack is an entirely different matter. Furthermore, if you're already hacking, you're obviously not very good; therefore, you rely on the maphack to bring you through. And although hard counters and scouting are crucial parts of this game, just as much relies on your ability to know the actual counters and be able to produce them effectively. My first guess is that this player did hack, and simply wasn't very good at the game.

My second guess is that, keeping in mind that this beta is also a time for hackers to develop their programs, it was the creator or a tester simply running the hack through a field test.

[Lazz]

Having a hack and being able to use it to your maximum advantage are two entirely different matters.

Thank you.



Have you seen the current incarnation of the maphack? It DOES NOT reveal and remove the fog of war so you can see everything. All it simply does is work like the minimap, and show little dots of where everything is.

No, there are two. One does what you say, and the other does not remove the fog of war but does show buildings and units, standing there with full lighting, standing in the fog of war.

[Lykos]

Sadly, no. I don't know of a way to get it either. It doesn't seem possible unless someone gives it away.

Go to the game either in your profile's recent games and right click on his name and add him or go to the replay, play it and exit and right click on his name.

[Eloderung]

yeah, i don't know why they wouldn't do this
is it too much of a strain if there's a lot of people playing at once?

Blizzard did this 10 years ago with a f2p game.

It was called Diablo II.

HoN copies also will only cost $30, and it's being made by a game developer that doesn't have several record-breaking titles behind its back for profit.

If blizzard moved its hosting server-side, it would make SC2 a much better game. With them hosting games, they could have more control over latency. I looked at the list of HoN servers the other day, and I have 30ms latency to some of them, and 150ms even to European HoN servers in Germany and France.

And no, HoN has yet to be maphacked - the only way to maphack involves having either an observer in the game or a friend on the other team both running this one program, which is pretty much a more sophisticated way of calling your buddy up on the phone and asking them where their heroes are. And it'll be far, far, far less likely to hacks in the future, as opposed to War3 which is pretty much ruined with hacking run rampant that blizzard cannot solve.

[Pokey]

Go to the game either in your profile's recent games and right click on his name and add him or go to the replay, play it and exit and right click on his name.

It's not in my profile's recent games and when I exited the replay it just took me to the bnet2.0 home page. This doesn't seem to work...

[Jitterbug]

Absolutely a maphack. He intercepts overlords mid flight and keeps going back to your base even though e doesn't have vision there. I'd report him. I hope blizzard bans his entire Battle.net account.

[Orangepulp]

Blizzard did this 10 years ago with a f2p game.

It was called Diablo II.

HoN copies also will only cost $30, and it's being made by a game developer that doesn't have several record-breaking titles behind its back for profit.

If blizzard moved its hosting server-side, it would make SC2 a much better game. With them hosting games, they could have more control over latency. I looked at the list of HoN servers the other day, and I have 30ms latency to some of them, and 150ms even to European HoN servers in Germany and France.

And no, HoN has yet to be maphacked - the only way to maphack involves having either an observer in the game or a friend on the other team both running this one program, which is pretty much a more sophisticated way of calling your buddy up on the phone and asking them where their heroes are. And it'll be far, far, far less likely to hacks in the future, as opposed to War3 which is pretty much ruined with hacking run rampant that blizzard cannot solve.

Do you really have to bring up HoN in every thread you post in? It's getting ridiculous.

[Terrorvision]

Absolutely a maphack. He intercepts overlords mid flight and keeps going back to your base even though e doesn't have vision there. I'd report him. I hope blizzard bans his entire Battle.net account.

For what it's worth, I'm not sure that these people should be outright banned in the beta. I think Blizzard should take the opportunity to study the way people are hacking the game and revealing the map.

That said it seems pretty disheartening that it only took a month or so for several working maphacks to be created. I do hope something can be done about it, but if it is anything like WC3 or Diablo 2, then hacking is going to run rampant.

On another note, I used a maphack one time in WC3. I lost the match miserably. On top of losing I felt bad. But the point here is that when the average user goes out and gets a maphack, they are using it as a crutch and not to supplement their already considerable skill. It isn't surprising to me that this guy gets beaten badly even though he is cheating. Also, he doesn't even build units to counter the zerg player after seeing him legitimately.

Of course when a platinum level player loads up a maphack it gives them a considerably greater advantage.

Also: HoN HoN HoN HoN HoN HoN HoN HoN HoN HoN HoN HoN HoN HoN HoN HoN HoN HoN

P.S.: I don't even know what HoN is

[Jitterbug]

For what it's worth, I'm not sure that these people should be outright banned in the beta. I think Blizzard should take the opportunity to study the way people are hacking the game and revealing the map.

That said it seems pretty disheartening that it only took a month or so for several working maphacks to be created. I do hope something can be done about it, but if it is anything like WC3 or Diablo 2, then hacking is going to run rampant.

On another note, I used a maphack one time in WC3. I lost the match miserably. On top of losing I felt bad. But the point here is that when the average user goes out and gets a maphack, they are using it as a crutch and not to supplement their already considerable skill. It isn't surprising to me that this guy gets beaten badly even though he is cheating. Also, he doesn't even build units to counter the zerg player after seeing him legitimately.The difference between WC3 and SC2 is that the consequences are much worse for hacking in SC2. Blizzard can ban you from SC2, which pretty much makes your game useless. They can also ban your entire Battle.net account which includes any other games you have attached to it.

I can't wait for all the kiddies that will be coming to the forums complaining that they got banned when they were maphacking.

[Terrorvision]

I know a bunch of people have been banned for hacking in WC3. It perhaps has gotten out of control as the game ages. The same for Diablo 2.

However you are right, getting people to link every game they have to a single account is just inviting morons to get their entire B.Net account banned and not be able to play any Blizzard game online.

[Essentia]

I sound inexperienced because I'm talking about actually taking advantage of map-hacking rather than pumping out more marines to take on hydralisks, then even battlecruisers? He went right over the zerglins at the Xel'Nagas and didn't if kill them then, when he had a direct line of sight.

This guy is freaking retarded, I don't see how in the world he would be intelligent enough to map hack. He killed 1 overlord on the left side of his base. Yeah, weird, but it's not like he killed the overlord the second he got there. The other overlord was just right at his choke point, nothing special.

Either this guy is trying his hardest not to look like a maphacker, and plays dumb on purpose (Which costs him the game), or he is just dumb.

Colrath.Colrath:

1v1 Copper
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2v2 Copper
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stfu noob.

[Colrath]

Colrath.Colrath:

1v1 Copper
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2v2 Copper
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stfu noob.


We can go at it for a couple of rounds if you feel like it. 90% of my games are trying different builds, ones I haven't seen before. You can't look at my most recent history, but I'm 12 wins in a row that I actually have experimented enough and want to jump up some ladders.

[Dronmor]

from what i've seen, i don't think he was hacking, he found the overlords because they were near his base, the one by his backdoor, he muct have realised he hasn't checked/defended that area so he sends some marines to check on it, the other overlord, trys to sneak up the side of the map, gets causght. never noticed and wierd looking inot the fog-of-war (didn't watch whole thing) but tis kinda obvious where your bases would be so maybe he was deciding on course of action

after he destroys the back door he decides to play it safe and realises you know he destroyed it so he backs off till he has a bigger army, maybe thinking you'd split your forces to help him take some down before rest arive and tilt the battle in his favour, i don't see anything wierd

EDIT: after watching it again, it does seem a bit odd, that he keeps clicking around, but it is possible he knew you overlord was there when he sent those marines to his other choke and i've seen odder things than clicking around the map

[Etravex]

Definite cheater. For absolute proof look at the part of the video where zerg goes to high yield expansion (top left) as soon as the zerg units are up their attacking the rocks the human players screen clicks there and then back to his base. Not a second before or after, but right as it was happening.

WIth the overlords he wasn't scouting with the marines to look for overlords. Pay attention to before he moves his marines he "clicks" in the fog of war and sees the overlords then he moves his marines. This was definetly not guess and check . Was obvious.

[Dronmor]

Definite cheater. For absolute proof look at the part of the video where zerg goes to high yield expansion (top left) as soon as the zerg units are up their attacking the rocks the human players screen clicks there and then back to his base. Not a second before or after, but right as it was happening.

WIth the overlords he wasn't scouting with the marines to look for overlords. Pay attention to before he moves his marines he "clicks" in the fog of war and sees the overlords then he moves his marines. This was definetly not guess and check . Was obvious.

still think it might be just coincidence, i don't think we've found a witch to burn just yet, at any rate discussion is pointless, its blizz who lights the stake

[Gzboli]

I think it's very clear he is seeing things he should not be. Zergling scouts, overlords, avoiding the hydra army then running away when he realizes his MMM army sucks.

And the give away...
Frequently looking at fog of war.
I know I do that all the time, what about you guys!?

The best part of this replay is when he gets owned by fungal spores... twice. He's definitely out of his league and seems to have got there by cheating.

[Omniance]

still think it might be just coincidence, i don't think we've found a witch to burn just yet, at any rate discussion is pointless, its blizz who lights the stake

Discussion isn't pointless, it allows us to tell Blizzard that something is wrong. If someone is hacking the game, Blizzard should be notified so that they can try and figure what program he was using and they can create a block for that program. Though hacking should be frowned upon, it's actually a good thing that people are using these hacks in Beta, that way Blizzard can net the majority of them before release.

[Jinsin]

I know I do that all the time, what about you guys!?

oh you know it, being able to see things is a crutch, clearly this guy plays on a higher level than all of us.

Seriously though, looking at a base while covered by fog of war is as clear a indicator of a Maphack as it gets, if that can't convince you he is cheating then nothing will and you are a naive fool.

To the people who are claiming he should've won if he was truly maphacking, put it into persepctive, he is probably a bad player with an inflated rating. He has no skills and uses the hack to get a higher standing which faces him against better opponents.

tl;dr - He is hacking, no way around it, he is supposed to be a lower division but got into a higher one using hacks and gets rolled by being outplayed

[Terralisk]

This isn't the first time it's reported. It's ridiculous that people would do this in a beta, of all things.

[Huma]

lol at cheating already. He was def cheating, watch his camera. I don't think I have seen so much fog in my entire beta testing.

[Axiris]

Sad to see, especially in a beta when there are people looking to get in to actually play the game. This needs to be fixed asap. I know it is a battle that is never really won, but those who cheat need to be permabanned the instant they are caught. Those in beta, toss them out.

[Pwn]

It exists, and sadly it's not hard to find and use either.

[Billymole]

I'm quite amused by the people professing that he lost, therefore he is not hacking. If a noob maphacked in SC1 and faced a sponsored pro, would he win? Heck no.

Actual skilled players hack a lot more rarely than drooling morons. The good player has worked for his skill, developed it, and moreover generally looks down on cheaters. The drooling moron is sick of getting rolled, and tries to close the gap using the hack. Surprise surprise, he's still a bad, and still gets rolled hard a lot.

[Atma]

Wow, that is about as blatant as it gets...I'm sure Blizz will nail him with the banhammer.

[Pwn]

Colrath.Colrath:

1v1 Copper
47-52

2v2 Copper
2-12


stfu noob.

Win % is supposed to be about 50%.

And why does your rating here matter that much? Even on retail, it's more about your personal improvement.

Plus you have to account for encounters in which your opponent is greatly favored, which you lose less points in. Your point balance is more important than your win ratio. I could lose 10 games in a row to people who are several leagues higher than I am, but it would probably have a very little effect on my points.

If you're winning constantly against people who are much lower than you, your win ratio may be high, but the amount of points you're actually getting and how much your skill is progressing is probably minimal to that of someone fighting people favored over them all the time.


I hope you're joking, is all I am saying.

[Rks]

For people that still doubt about sc2 maphack actually exist :

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23767559040&sid=5000

In this game it's beyond the obvious

[Bracewar]

I do believe he was hacking. Most obvious point. fast forward to 14:09. pause it at 14:09. Show everything. You see pokey's army there. now go to reds view and you can see him looking there. There is no reason for him to EVER look there. There is no ramp there, no minerals, no building locations and he does not issue a move command to any of his units. Rewind a few seconds and watch him just click the mini map and look there. For no reason.......

Obvious map hacker is obvious